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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190879645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190879645">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>hey <span class="user-group-mention" data-user-group-id="1172">@WG-async-foundations</span> - meeting time!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190879689" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190879689">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:02)</a>:</h4>
<p>Hey <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116883">@tmandry</span> =)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880050" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880050">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:04)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880216" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880216">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:05)</a>:</h4>
<p>Looks like a few issues got closed:</p>
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<li>async fn ICEs in macro on stable <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67778" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67778">#67778</a></li>
<li>25% compile time increase on beta when building async-std <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68864" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68864">#68864</a></li>
<li><code>x = yield;</code> makes generators larger than they need to be <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69672" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69672">#69672</a></li>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880373" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880373">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:06)</a>:</h4>
<p>On the <a href="https://github.com/orgs/rust-lang/projects/2" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/orgs/rust-lang/projects/2">project board</a> we have 5 marked as in progress</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880402" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880402">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:07)</a>:</h4>
<h2>Confusing/incorrect error message with incoherent implementations and async blocks <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67651" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67651">#67651</a></h2>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880502" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880502">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>should be fixed by <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68884" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68884">#68884</a>, which seems blocked by something?</p>



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<p>Looks like the region variables are different on i686-gnu for some reason.</p>
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880645" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880645">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:08)</a>:</h4>
<p>that's causing test failures</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880686" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880686">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think this <em>may</em> no longer be true</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880728" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880728">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>I see you pointed to <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189">#69189</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880746" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880746">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>right, my mistake, that hasn't landed yet</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880787" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880787">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, hopefully it will go away once that lands then</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880790" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880790">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>it would be good to verify my hypothesis</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880795" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880795">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:09)</a>:</h4>
<p>or else alter the test</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880890" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880890">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>the test for <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189">#69189</a> you mean?</p>



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<p>no I mean the test that is failing in <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68884" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68884">#68884</a></p>



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<p>or rather, I'm not sure why we're seeing region variables there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880956" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880956">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:10)</a>:</h4>
<p>ah okay</p>



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<p>it's not necessarily that the <em>test</em> should be changed</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190880992" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190880992">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess I didn't look too closely yet</p>



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<p>but sometimes we dump debug output as part of the test</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881012" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881012">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't think that's the case here</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881029" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881029">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>if it is, we could probably just...stop</p>



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<p>if it's not...we have to fix some other bug, I guess, but maybe <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189">#69189</a> does so by erasing regions</p>



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<div class="codehilite"><pre><span></span>2020-03-01T01:35:34.4477793Z -    = note: hidden type `(&amp;u8, &amp;u8)` captures lifetime &#39;_#9r
2020-03-01T01:35:34.4478412Z +    = note: hidden type `(&amp;u8, &amp;u8)` captures lifetime &#39;_#5r
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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881117" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881117">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>from the failure log</p>



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<p>right</p>



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<p>I guess I should go look into it a bit more :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881184" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881184">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'd like to see this PR land</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881206" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881206">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:12)</a>:</h4>
<p>that error comes from the impl trait code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881253" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881253">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I guess thinking about it a bit more I might be just wrong that <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189">#69189</a> will have any effect :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881284" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881284">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, so if <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69189">#69189</a> doesn't fix the issue we should take a closer look this week</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881339" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881339">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:13)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm going to start a build now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881501" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881501">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:14)</a>:</h4>
<h2>Cannot define async fn with no_std <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/56974" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/56974">#56974</a></h2>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881539" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881539">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I think this is waiting on an r+ from me on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69033" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69033">#69033</a>, actually</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881628" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881628">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:15)</a>:</h4>
<p>I should be able to give it, I've just been behind lately</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881694" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881694">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'll take a look after this</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881724" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881724">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:16)</a>:</h4>
<h2>async fn presence affects an unrelated error message <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/66312" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/66312">#66312</a></h2>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881768" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881768">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:16)</a>:</h4>
<p>also fixed by <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68884" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68884">#68884</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881817" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881817">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<h2>Bad error message with async main <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68523" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68523">#68523</a></h2>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190881924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190881924">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:17)</a>:</h4>
<p>waiting on a response from <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="119031">@Esteban Küber</span></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882007" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882007">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:18)</a>:</h4>
<p>this one was more of a "serendipity issue" that someone picked up, so I'm not quite sure how to track it</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882115" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882115">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:19)</a>:</h4>
<p>left a ping</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882143" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882143">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:19)</a>:</h4>
<h2>Re-land "add IntoFuture trait and support for await" <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67982" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67982">#67982</a></h2>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882259" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882259">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>for this, I need to do some investigating to see what's left</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882273" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882273">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:20)</a>:</h4>
<p>and probably kick off another perf run</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882362" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882362">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p><a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69218" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69218">#69218</a> was pointed to as maybe fixing the 6% or so performance hit we saw on async code</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882411" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882411">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>..it looks like that's blocked on a couple things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882445" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882445">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>is that the one that needs an ena review?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882450" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882450">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:21)</a>:</h4>
<p>I gotta get on that</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882476" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882476">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>yep</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882555" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882555">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks like a lot of code all around :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882562" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882562">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm way behind on reviews :(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882610" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882610">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>time for Ye Olde Rubber Stamp perhaps :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882614" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882614">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:22)</a>:</h4>
<p>yes, me too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882764" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882764">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:23)</a>:</h4>
<p>..I'm going to move this issue into the "Blocked" category to await progress on <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69218" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/69218">#69218</a></p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190882848" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190882848">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:24)</a>:</h4>
<p>I don't know if that's <em>necessary</em>, but it'd be good to see where we are after it's merged</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883021" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883021">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>speaking of which</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883053" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883053">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:25)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm running through the list of blocked issues now</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883091" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883091">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:25)</a>:</h4>
<h2>Lifetime bounds in auto trait impls prevent trait from being implemented on generators <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/64552" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/64552">#64552</a></h2>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883155" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883155">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>No update I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883161" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883161">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>this should probably be marked "in progress" because of <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68362" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/68362">#68362</a>?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883192" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883192">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:26)</a>:</h4>
<p>looks like there's been some activity there</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883231" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883231">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:26)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116773">@csmoe</span> is there anything I can do to help move things along?</p>



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<p>hmm, maybe, I guess I think that doing this right is going to require a bit of brain space</p>



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<p>but it would be worth making that space</p>



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<p>it definitely intersects a bunch of ongoing things</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883414" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883414">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116118">@Matthew Jasper</span>'s work on removing regionck</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883422" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883422">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:27)</a>:</h4>
<p>my work on removing leak-check</p>



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<p>and in general the work on how best to handle higher-ranked regions and chalk</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883528" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883528">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>which isn't a good excuse for not providing much feedback</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883559" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883559">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:28)</a>:</h4>
<p>question about priority: how much is this an urgnt problem in practice?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883668" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883668">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:29)</a>:</h4>
<p>it's probably not as high priority as some of the "To do" items</p>



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<p>so maybe we should go visit those</p>



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<p>I'll mark this as blocked (on both feedback and design work)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883835" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883835">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>but fwiw, this issue does have multiple duplicates</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883889" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883889">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK.</p>



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<p>That's useful data</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883924" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883924">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:30)</a>:</h4>
<p>so it's at least "medium-high" priority, I think</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190883990" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190883990">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>OK. FWIW, those other items are definitely "high pri" to start resolving too</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884036" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884036">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>you mean the other Blocked issues?</p>



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<p>in particuar I want to get moving again on leak-check removal, and there are definitely interactions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884071" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884071">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>I meant the things that this issue is "entangled with"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884092" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884092">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:31)</a>:</h4>
<p>oh, I see</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884183" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884183">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:32)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, so this would be good to keep in mind as we revisit those</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884308" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884308">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>Okay, let's look at what's on the to-do list</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884318" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884318">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:33)</a>:</h4>
<h2>rustc compiler crashed when using async in loop <a href="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67893" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/rust-lang/rust/issues/67893">#67893</a></h2>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884384" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884384">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:33)</a>:</h4>
<p>apparently the ICE has been fixed, and needs a test</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884552" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884552">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:34)</a>:</h4>
<p>..I don't see much point in going through the rest of these actually</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884600" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884600">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>if anyone wants to pick up something to work on, see the <a href="https://github.com/orgs/rust-lang/projects/2" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/orgs/rust-lang/projects/2">project board</a>!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884657" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884657">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>We have a lot of <a href="https://github.com/search?q=org%3Arust-lang+is%3Aissue+label%3AA-async-await+is%3Aopen+-label%3AAsyncAwait-Triaged&amp;type=Issues" target="_blank" title="https://github.com/search?q=org%3Arust-lang+is%3Aissue+label%3AA-async-await+is%3Aopen+-label%3AAsyncAwait-Triaged&amp;type=Issues">Uncategorized issues</a> that need triage</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884698" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884698">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>Yeah, we're kind of out of time anyway, I guess we have to revisit our process a bit</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884759" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884759">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, I was going to say</p>



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<p>(I do feel like perhaps the most imp't thing is triaging new things)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884785" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884785">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>(in particuar we don't want some urgnt issue to go un-noticed)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884811" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884811">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:36)</a>:</h4>
<p>I can go through them on my own / in a separate thread</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884882" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884882">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>that said, it's worth calling out that we don't really seem to have a ton of activity in these meetings, mostly you and I, so maybe we need to step back and think about that too -- which I guess we've been saying for a while</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884900" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884900">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>and I haven't had much time <em>outside</em> the meetings :(</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884968" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884968">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190884990" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190884990">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:37)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I know others have participated as well, not trying to edit anyone out, apologies)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885082" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885082">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>but lately it has dwindled some</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885087" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885087">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>but it does feel like we need to change up a bit our approach here :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885135" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885135">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>fwiw I agree that not missing important new issues is important</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885201" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885201">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:38)</a>:</h4>
<p>that said, I don't necessarily think looking over new issues requires a big group of folks or anything</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885245" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885245">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>but I did want to prioritize folks who were working on issues, so they felt that the meeting time was useful</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885248" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885248">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:39)</a>:</h4>
<p>the biggest problem is probably just that we're not seeing issues getting mentoring instructions and folks showing up to tackle them</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885306" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885306">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:39)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116883">tmandry</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190885245" title="#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190885245">said</a>:</p>
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<p>but I did want to prioritize folks who were working on issues, so they felt that the meeting time was useful</p>
</blockquote>
<p>yes -- I'm not sure that triaging new issues needs to be a "group activity"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885457" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885457">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, I think in that case I'll set aside time to triage any new issues we didn't get to after the meeting</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885503" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885503">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:40)</a>:</h4>
<p>(or maybe just go through and look for important ones before)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885579" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885579">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>I do agree that we need more mentorship instructions</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885636" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885636">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:41)</a>:</h4>
<p>and once we have some, I <em>think</em> it should be relatively easy to do a "call for participation"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885735" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885735">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, I've been meaning to add some, or at least dig in a bit to issues, and just keep getting pulled off during my async time :/</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885743" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885743">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>maybe we need to do a focus on that though</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885749" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885749">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>one thing we could do</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885807" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885807">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:42)</a>:</h4>
<p>I've been entertaining the idea in other places of moving away from "regular meetings" and towards bigger, less frequent blocks of time</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885831" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885831">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>e.g., it might be easier for me to say "next Monday is 100% async mentoring day"</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885911" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885911">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>if we wanted to get a person or two together to egg each other on and try to push on that, I might be game :) I can of course also pick a day on my own I suppose</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885913" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885913">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah, that makes sense</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190885959" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190885959">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:43)</a>:</h4>
<p>I'm down for doing that one day :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886051" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886051">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I still like having triage meetings, perhaps every other week or so)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886095" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886095">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:44)</a>:</h4>
<p>(but I'm not married to that idea)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886328" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886328">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention" data-user-id="116009">@nikomatsakis</span> looking at this week and next, I don't see any days which <em>wouldn't</em> work</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886350" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886350">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:46)</a>:</h4>
<p><span class="user-mention silent" data-user-id="116883">tmandry</span> <a href="#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190886051" title="#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17/near/190886051">said</a>:</p>
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<p>(I still like having triage meetings, perhaps every other week or so)</p>
</blockquote>
<p>not to say we should not have triage meetings :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886403" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886403">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:46)</a>:</h4>
<p>(I might have a 30min meeting on a particular day but that seems fine)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886413" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886413">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>yeah</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886447" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886447">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>in practice when we did this for polonius I think I wound up dedicating 50% of the day, but we did it for 3 or 4 days in a row</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886468" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886468">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:47)</a>:</h4>
<p>still, I found it pretty helpful to have the context</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886735" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886735">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:49)</a>:</h4>
<p>okay, do either thu/fri this week or the beginning of next work for you?</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886955" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886955">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>hmm, this week not so good, but next week could work -- maybe even 1 week from now, actually? (i.e., on Tuesday)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190886976" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190886976">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:51)</a>:</h4>
<p>sure, works for me!</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190887087" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190887087">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>ok, I'm going to put that in my calendar -- I have a few things throughout the day, and obviously we have triage, but it's fairly empty</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190887176" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190887176">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:52)</a>:</h4>
<p>send me an invite :)</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190887227" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> tmandry <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190887227">(Mar 17 2020 at 17:53)</a>:</h4>
<p>actually, I'm putting it in my calendar</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190911312" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> Giles Cope <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190911312">(Mar 17 2020 at 21:11)</a>:</h4>
<p>Never open documentation PRs. They just never end! At least with the code PRs you have a change and some tests and everyone's mostly in agreement and you move on. Doc PRs just seem to take months to get closure. I guess it's because the compiler is everyone else which means long cycle times... I'm not sure this is related to async/await. I await closure... anyway I'm not commuting anymore which gives me a bit more free time back to do some coding so will try and get back on the wagon.</p>



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<h4><a href="https://rust-lang.zulipchat.com#narrow/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting%202020.03.17/near/190913877" class="zl"><img src="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/assets/img/zulip.svg" alt="view this post on Zulip" style="width:20px;height:20px;"></a> nikomatsakis <a href="https://rust-lang.github.io/zulip_archive/stream/187312-wg-async-foundations/topic/meeting.202020.2E03.2E17.html#190913877">(Mar 17 2020 at 21:35)</a>:</h4>
<p>Which PR is that, <span class="user-mention" data-user-id="120134">@Giles Cope</span> ? :)</p>



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